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What the Meta is your fun and informative videocast partner in figuring out what the metaverse is and can be. Join Jason Chung and Philip Milestone, two metaspace lawyers, wonks and educators, as they grapple with their virtual lives and identities and figure out how to engage with a new plane of existence. Helping them on their journey are a host of friends – top thinkers, personalities and renegades – who explain key concepts of life such as citizenship, property and love in the metaverse.

Right on time, Philip and Jason delve into what happened in 2023. From huge news in the SEC-Ripple lawsuit to Sam Bankman-Fried being found guilty of defrauding FTX account holders, last year was a wild ride for distributed ledger technology (DLT). Helping Jason overcome his crippling fear of rollercoasters is this episode’s guest Josh Lawler, head of Zuber Lawler’s Emerging Technologies group and DLT guru. Join us as Josh answers questions about DLT regulation, lawsuits and enforcement as well as explains why you should always respect the IRS. Listen and subscribe to figure out where we go from here. Note: Philip would like you to know that he is brave and doesn’t fear rollercoasters.


About Josh Lawler: Josh Lawler is an equity partner at the law firm of Zuber Lawler, where he leads the New Technology Practice Group, focusing on novel issues presented by developing technology including Blockchain (distributed ledger), artificial intelligence, robotics, virtual/augmented reality and Internet of things. Josh has over twenty years of experience as a securities attorney with focuses on finance and mergers and acquisitions, as well as intellectual property development and licensing.

Join Jason and Philip as they talk about their gaming chops (or lack thereof), what gaming means to them and what trends they foresee at the intersection of gaming and Web3. Then listen as they pivot to talk to a real expert in Alexander Lee, Senior Gaming and Esports Reporter at Digiday, a true final boss of industry knowledge and insights.

Together, they delve into the complex and often misunderstood realm of Web3 as it intersects with the gaming community. They discuss how gamers, from casual players to hardcore enthusiasts, are perceiving and interacting with Web3 technologies. Is this the dawn of a new era in gaming, marked by blockchain and cryptocurrencies, or is it merely a trendy wave that will soon crash against the shores of gaming history? Expect a blend of expert analysis, anecdotes and maybe some harsh truths as they unpack whether Web3 represents a lasting innovation in gaming or just another passing fad in the ever-evolving digital landscape.

About Alexander Lee:

Alexander Lee reports on gaming, esports and the metaverse for Digiday. His work covers the ways in which games and virtual experiences are increasingly converging with mainstream culture and media.

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Jason Chung is an educator and head of the esports practice at Zuber Lawler deeply immersed in technology and gaming. He approaches the metaverse and all it can do from a practical perspective and abhors the word futurist. Jason received his B.C.L. and LL.B. from McGill University and graduated cum laude with his M.S.C. from the Universiteit van Amsterdam.

Philip Milestone is a counsel at Zuber Lawler and a business person deeply immersed in nerdity and sci-fi. He approaches the metaverse and all it can do from a philosophical perspective and wonders what electric sheep dream about. Philip received his J.D. from the University of California, Berkeley School of Law, and his B.A. from the University of Wisconsin, Madison.

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